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You know, after the jump. Pic somewhat related.
At this point, why doesn’t Trump just get down on his knees and blow Putin? It shows you just how badly Trump wants to be a member of the Oligarch Club.
After Putin said his government played no role in trying to sabotage the U.S. election, Trump offered no pushback and went on to condemn the Justice Department’s investigation of Russian interference as “a disaster for our country.”
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“I don’t see any reason why” Russia would interfere in the election, Trump said as he stood next to Putin at a joint news conference after their talks in the Finnish capital ended. Of their private conversation in Helsinki about the interference, Trump said, “President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.”
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No reason? Really?
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Hey, whatever happened to ISIS/ISIL, the middle east, war on terror, etc? It was the ONLY story for the longest time and now it’s almost never mentioned in the news, everyone choosing to focus on bullshit instead.
Did we win and nobody told me?
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Submitting your administration to a Chekist to own the libs?
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“I asked my 5
year old if he ate all the candy and he said no. I asked him again by framing
the question differently and he vehemently denied it,
so I guess case closed. My wife interrogating
him was a complete
disaster
even though she caught him red handed
. Unnecessary.
I totally believe him”
Except that for the most part Dotard behaves like a 5 year old. He knows Putin helped him win the election that he himself didn’t want to win . Oh he knows alright.
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We totally won that. Problem solved.
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we’ll still be fighting it 30 years from now... just never mentioning it again... so no one cares coz its not happening.. if it was someone would be talking about it...
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#Winning is all that matters , How? at what cost? meh.
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Samantha fixed it all.
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Winning by letting the KGB win! Why didn’t Reagan think of that?
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You guys(America) are Fucked.
Trump is the shit storm that just keeps on giving. It’s like he is not the stable genius that he keeps on saying he is.
He is putting the entire world against America.
Most countries are doing just like most C anadians are doing, we are choosing non american products when we can now.
I don’t take the World can take much more of american greatness.
Make America Hate Again
Make America Racist A
gain
Make America wait Again
The sad this is this will hurt the image of americans long after Putin’s Bitch is out of office.
Not that the classic american stereo-type was good before....
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Reagan would have straight up jailed this treasonous twat back then for the things he has done with the Russians.
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Whatever Putin has on him it’s so bad that Trump’s even ashamed of it.
But we’re probably rid of Alaska, so we got that going for us.
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Well worth watching...
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We should trick them i taking Florida too
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It’s mind-boggling just seeing how he is so willing to go along with Putin at his word and go so far out of his way to keep things cordial with him. So stark after seeing his behavior at the G7 summit, and just last week with the NATO leaders and meeting PM May in the UK. If only he could try to be half as cordial with our actual allies as he is with the Kims and Putins of the world.
He can say all he
wants about whether or not his campaign directly had anything to do with
Russian meddling in the election, the whole truth will eventually (hopefully)
come out as a result of the investigations, but the fact that it happened is
not up for debate.
His tweets about the topic right before this meeting
(basically just blaming Obama, and calling the investigation a witch hunt) are
so alarming. Also not that he would pay attention to such things, but consider
looking back to the political climate during the run up to the elections and
how McConnell was responding to suggestions that the Russians might be up to
something fishy. Just imagine if Obama actually HAD pushed to come out and do
something about the meddling, on far less substantial evidence at that point
mind you, during the election campaign.
The twisted logic is just too much to follow at this point. So much for checks and balances in government, with Republicans in congress either going along with not much to say or jokers like Gowdy and Nunes taking Trump’s side on all this viciously attacking the investigations trying to bring them down.
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Yeah will be only temporary -
Canadians will re
take it once the weather gets cold there. RCMP/CBSA checkpoints will be placed on all exits from Russian-occupied Broward and Dade counties.
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Lol, funny you provide that anecdote. Just yesterday my 4 year old cane upstairs with blue lips and blue teeth. I asked him what were you eating Son?
Nothing.
No candy or anything like that?
Nope, nothing Dad.
You want to try that again?
-mumbles- it was a ring pop Dad....
kids crack me up, but typically they grow up, but not the chucklehead in chief. Such a tool.
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Nothing stopping us now. In fact, the sooner, the better.
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Putin the despot and oligarch is his hero. Trump’ s never going to do or say anything bad about Pooty-poot because he idolizes him so. But Trump is absolutely no match for Putin, intellectually or strategically. Putin is playing him like a bad fiddle and getting him to do his bidding.
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Yeah, it’s unbelievable. This is what you get when you have a president who has no interest in learning, and has zero clue about history and Putin’s track record. At worst he truly is actively beholden to him as a result of some election related sketchiness that his campaign participated in , at best he simply doesn’t get the depths that Putin and his cronies can, have, and will go to get their way and is all like “he seems so nice, he likes me! Why do we have to be mean to him? He said he didn’t hack the internet, OK?!”
The fact that a good portion of the American population is equally uninterested and lacking in knowledge about foreign relations is no surprise – but jeez, congress. As long as they get their tax cuts and pockets lined nicely I guess they’ll go along with just about anything.
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It’s not only unbelievable, I think it’s impeachable. “Preserve, protect and defend” and all that. He sure as hell isn’t protecting and defending it.
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A year ago, this would have been a Saturday Night Live sketch, except Putin would have been shirtless. And LIVE FROM HELSINKI IT’S SATURDAY NIGHT!
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The indictments from last week stem from spear-phishing into the DNC to access their emails and files.
It was suspected that this originated from Russia since it was announced that it happened.
Nothing new there.
As far as cyber security concerns, any IT admin worth being paid to be an IT admin understands that every device connected to the internet should be treated as if it is currently under attack, from every where, because it is. The more important the info you have, the stronger the attacks are likely to be.
Why was the DNC so incompetent in avoiding the
spear-phishing attacks that started this? Knowing how big of a target they are, why didn’t they have more stringent security in place? Perhaps something to see that a user outside of the US was accessing their server and downloading everything they could possibly find?
Trump was briefed on the indictments before they came out last week. Knowing the details behind them, he still is going on record as saying this was something done without Putin’s knowledge or direction. Even CNN FakeNews is reporting that the election results were not impacted.
My take: Every country with a computer connected to the
internet
and an
intelligence agency is currently attempting to hack into every other country with a computer connected to the internet
. The people in charge of the DNC’s cyber security are / were morons. Trump, Putin, and every other world leader is
aware of this. They will all deny it when asked, however.
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He’s right that there’s been a disaster, and he is it. And his cronies, and his kids, etc. Everyone should have seen this coming after threat after threat never resulted in sanctions with teeth. The tape must be really really embarrassing, even for someone who is a stereotype for the lack of self-awareness of his demographic.
Anyone who voted for this gong show should be ashamed for the rest of their lives.
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Alaska isn’t going anywhere, there’s oil there.
Also, if Putin’s Trump Blackmail Video were to get posted to YouTube, how long would it take to get more views than Gangham Style?
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Hey man, if there’s one things Americans hate it is waiting. We want to win NOW!
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Believe the intelligence response was that impacts to election results were UNKNOWN. Which is accurate and reasonable, and very different from NO IMPACT - which, how do you even prove that?
Your line of reasoning basically boils down to victim-blaming. Neither you nor I know anything about the DNC’s security systems – but let’s assume they below par. Does it make it OK for the Russian government, potentially in coordination with other actors (TBD), to try to defeat it for political gain? Your only response for this being an ongoing risk that will continue to affect elections across the Western world is “get better security systems”?
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The thing that boggles my mind is that despite all of the evidence showing that Killary colluded with the Russians and sold them enriched Uranium, nobody has put her name through the wringer quite like this orange guy has been.
Don’t get me wrong, trump wasn’t my first choice but if Killary were in his position just think of the power the ruskis would have over her and Bill. They would run roughshod over our steel industry and intelligence. The only problem is that the MSM wouldn’t pay attention to it quite like they do with the trumpeter.
I’m a libertarian and I voted Johnson/Weld but believe me when I say that the orange guy was and still is the better option in this position.
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They should, but most of them are too busy winning laughing at triggered libs, so they won’t be.
Come November and in 2020 it will all come down to liberals who voted 3 rd party, and the huge numbers of people who didn’t vote at all – how many of those fools actually care enough to come forward and vote for candidates who can help stop this train wreck?
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It doesn’t fit the narrative the owners of the major media outlets want you to believe.
Apparently if you scream long and loud enough about something that didn’t happen, it becomes a fact. Their credibility is rapidly approaching zero.
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Maybe you just aren’t paying attention? All of those tooics are mentioned in major news outlets pretty frequently. Here’s a few, but there are at least half a dozen more stories about the middle east just from NPR and the BBC that have been published over the last two weeks. I f you think Putin and Trump meeting is a bullshit story, these might not be up your alley either.
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/06/626664253/refugees-flee-as-syria-targets-rebel-stronghold-daraa
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44806045
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44821746
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44685435
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Um, I only listen to AMERICAN news, than kyouverymuch.
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Maybe they will feel something when the next economic slowdown (probably under 24 months out) puts them in even worse shape. Cutting off your nose to spite your face is never a good idea.
We’re at the point where voting for someone else, anyone else, is likely the best choice.
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*MURICAN
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The exact quote from Rosenstein:
“There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime,” Rosenstein said at a news conference. “There is no allegation that the conspiracy altered the vote count or changed any election result.”
You are correct that I am totally victim-blaming the DNC, and it is deserved.
That said, cyber security IS both an ongoing and escalating risk. Not just in the matter of elections, but ongoing day-to-day operations.
For the Russians, I don’t think we can let them off the hook that easily. Take Putin up on his offer to interrogate those that were indicted as the next step.
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This is the man that screwed up running a casino, I wouldn’t put it past him.
The DC rumors about that tape are super bad
. If even a 1/10 is true there is no chance
the public will ever see it.
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Just appeared in court in DC .
Maria Butina, 29, a Russian citizen residing in Washington D.C., was arrested on July 15, 2018, in Washington, D.C., and made her initial appearance this afternoon before Magistrate Judge Deborah A. Robinson in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. She was ordered held pending a hearing set for July 18, 2018.
According to the affidavit in support of the complaint, from as early as 2015 and continuing through at least February 2017, Butina worked at the direction of a high-level official in the Russian government who was previously a member of the legislature of the Russian Federation and later became a top official at the Russian Central Bank. This Russian official was sanctioned by the U.S. Department of the Treasury, Office of Foreign Assets Control in April 2018.
The court filings detail the Russian official’s and Butina’s efforts for Butina to act as an agent of Russia inside the United States by developing relationships with U.S. persons and infiltrating organizations having influence in American politics, for the purpose of advancing the interests of the Russian Federation. The filings also describe certain actions taken by Butina to further this effort during multiple visits from Russia and, later, when she entered and resided in the United States on a student visa. The filings allege that she undertook her activities without officially disclosing the fact that she was acting as an agent of Russian government, as required by law.
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We’re at the point where voting for someone else, anyone else, is likely the best choice.
That’s what many of us thought in November 2016 (and by anyone, I mean HRC, even if she didn’t meet all our preferences 100%) , yet here we are :(
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I don’t interpret that legal speak to mean that the actions didn’t change the vote count or election result, but simply that they do not have sufficient evidence to prove that it did (which understandably would be very, very difficult) so they’re making no such allegations.
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I’ll admit that immediately after the 2016 disaster, I didn’t think it would be this bad. I expected stupidity and cronyism, but not the shameless corruption and snuggling up to dictators and fascists, nor the alienation of allies . It seems like we are now in year 667 of this regime, and every new day is amazing and horrifying at the same time.
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Maybe no direct collusion (yet) , but certainly meddling. Where are the sanctions? Where is the pushback? It’s deplorable.
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The actual affadavit names the NRA (as
“GUN RIGHTS ORGANIZATION”)
, I think this is just the start of it...
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Let’s hope.
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The breadth of the mayhem is staggering. Distancing allies while cozying up to dictators, then there’s the incompetence and corruption of his cabinet members (from industry backed deregulation to Chick-fil-A franchises and used mattresses), the royal family’s business interests, etc.
But I think the worst thing that we’ll have trouble moving beyond is how much worse he’s made this “us vs. them” mentality – where a good portion of his supporters actually believe the media is the enemy, that democrats are evil, that the deep state is out to ruin the one person who can save the country, etc.
I don’t know how we fix those problems because everything we see as ways to correct this sinking ship, they see as more signs that we’re trying to ruin “their” country, and that they’re the only true patriots standing up for America. People actually believe this, and the president encourages it. Never before have I seen that from someone in the white house, no matter how much I may have disagreed with their politics.
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Along those lines, it’s very important to note that this wasn’t filed by
Mueller’s
either... This is separate and even if Trump fired Mueller this probe would continue.
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The only way I can think of to prove the vote count changed is to show some form of electronic log
. I’m not familiar enough with how votes are counted though.
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45 said it himself, he loves the un educated. He knows how to play them, and he knows how to profit from them - look at his business history. These are the people who would buy into his “university”. These are the ones who believe in pizzagate. These are the deep staters. These are the birthers. Notice that 45 is also played by those smarter than him, like Vlad and to some extent Jinping and Rocketboy.
The attacks on the media are ominous and unprecedented too - far beyond Nixon’s reign of regrettableness. FOX is already a d e facto state run media outlet, and the base whines on and on about the “MSM”, while failing to show everyone what they consider a credible news source, and also failing to show where they get their own data.
It is going to take generations to right the ship, if it happens at all - and can’t say I am certain that it will be saved .
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I don’t think anyone is specifically trying to show, or suggest, that the number of votes were affected. There are so many variables that go in to how a person votes, it is impossible to prove which pieces of information/misinformation played a part in that. Short of someo ne actually hacking a voting machine and changing outcomes, an impact to the number of votes is unproveable.
But that doesn’t mean that a foreign government participated in a concerted hacking scheme to uncover internal materials to distribute as political ammunition, along with orchestrating social media misinformation campaigns is something we should be OK with. Additionally, if a particular campaign was working on coordination with said government in performing these acts that is obviously even a bigger issue.
To the extent of my knowledge the Mueller investigation has no interest in proving whether/how many votes were affected by any Russian efforts, nor should anyone waste time trying to do so – it is an impossible task. And also an irrelevant one.
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Ah yes, still running with the Uranium story. Because Clinton singlehandedly controlled that entire transaction with no other government agencies being involved or approving it, and personally profited from it of course. Man that’s one hell of a negotiator, Trump should take some lessons from her in that case!
And after a year and a half of unimaginable disaster that wouldn’t
make the script in a Mexican soap opera you still believe this is better than
the alternative (especially given that Clinton wouldn’t have had control of all
3 arms of government, = more checks
against her authority)? Believe you, seriously?! No thanks.
Nice touch with the “Killary” talk, did you come up with that yourself?!
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And an “MSM” blurp to top it off. Unbefreakinglievable.
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Here is an interesting take by a self proclaimed expert with a PhD:
Note this article was written in 2016, but I think it is still relevant.
Based on this information, attempts by foreign governments to influence the election should have been expected & planned for.
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I don’t trust word one of anything from Putin, just sayin’. That’s the crux of this outcry--he’s a fucking dictator, with only his own interests at heart.
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Thank you for saying all that I wanted to, and in a far more eloquent manner. I can only rage-edit so much. Keep doing God’s (Buddha/ The Flying Spaghetti Monster/ whatever deity, or lack thereof, that you prefer) work.
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I’m mostly mad at myself for capitalizing “Uranium” for no apparent reason. The Trump disease is real.
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Man, you really are on a 'Chekist' roll today, arent you...
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As long as the chekists exist they will be called out for existing
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I'd just blame my phone's autocorrect.
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Agreed, he’s BSing. What is Putin’s long game though? What does he or Russia have to gain?
Remember, Trump only likes to negotiate when he has leverage. Since USA > Russia, in all factions, Trump is the one with leverage.
One theory is that Putin has the Pee Tape. Or Trump’s tax returns. Or Obama’s birth certificate. Or something even more valuable to Trump that he doesn’t want out. Is that it? I don’t think so.
For that matter, what is Trump’s long game?
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Li ke amazon, I could guess youtube shutting down thinking it was suffering a ddos
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The man has some severe psychological disorders.
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The man has some severe psychological disorders.
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I’m still going with the obvious: Trump owes Russia for financing his business endeavors previously—it also would not surprise me in the least if rumors and accusations of money laundering are valid . Eric Trump has admitted that Russian money financed some golf courses a few years ago, and I’m confident that’s just the tip of an iceberg . I cannot wait to see more of what Mueller’s investigation has uncovered.
And yes, I’m sure Putin is exactly the type of person in power who would be happy to find dirt on others to use as leverage—and he’ s ri sen to power because of past connections to the KGB, did he not? Seems very much in the wheelhouse of the former intelligence agency. Trump may only like to craft deals when he has leverage, but he’s made a career where it’s increasingly obvious that he’s terrible at running businesses (except for marketing his fame through our reality-tv-obsessed culture) and now it’s also apparent he’s terrible at making deals in the political world . He’s outmatched politically; and it’s not helping him that he’s flooded his staff with corrupt yes-men as “experts” and ignored all other people with experience on foreign policy. TL;DR: I doubt Trump has much of any leverage left after displays like this—and he’s done next to nothing in terms of additional sanctions against Russia, an avenue where he could potentially exert power/pressure to get results he wants . When have you ever known Trump to exercise that kind of restraint rather than doing something like siccing lawyers on his problems to crush his opponents ? It tells me Putin has him by the balls over something .
I point to articles like this and say, “ follow the money,” and “who benefits?” Who benefits from Trump constantly taking Russia’s side in foreign policy and international positions?
https://www.vox.com/2017/7/18/15983910/donald-trump-russia-putin-fbi-collusion-fusion-gps
And please tell me that you’re not serious when you list Obama’s birth certificate like Trump needs it to prove something . He knows he’s full of sh it, he is just giddy that he has a cult of millions who buy into every lie he spews. Trump is a con man, and I’m horrified by how many people have fallen for (and continue to fall for) his scams.
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starred for the Trabi
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If Putin does have something on Trump, it has to be more than just getting a loan of a few hundred million $$$. If it is related to money, it has to be either serious unpaid debt, or bigly illegal fraud, money laundering, or tax evasion.
Agreed that Trump has not appeared to use his advisers well. Foreign policy is much more complicated than it looks on the surface.
Trump is ego driven and has never really been shy about his distaste for Obama - I mentioned the birth certificate in jest, but it would not shock me if Trump did some more dumb stuff around it
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The Clinton Foundation received nearly $150 million in donations from people directly linked to Uranium One and Rosatom. That’s not suspicious at all. Bill Clinton received $500K from a Russian bank promoting the stock of Uranium One for a “short speech”.
Move along, nothing to see here. Nothing to see here at all.
Keep your blinders on. That’ll work just fine.
I am no fan of Trump but I am even less a fan of this current “outrage” culture that is being led by the Democrat party. Literally every president since Clinton has met with Putin and given in to Putin’s whims.
Whether it was Clinton taking money from Putins people after his presidency or Bush mishandling the Georgia conflict and Barack allowing the Russians to run roughshod over the Ukranians, our government has allowed Putin and his people to do whatever they want with little to no repercussions from us. Now all of a sudden we have a problem with a sitting president having a meeting with another sitting “president”?
I’m sorry but I don’t buy it.
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The Clinton Foundation is a non-profit whose financials are audited and freely available. It is not a piggy bank for HRC, unlike another political candidate’s so-called “non-profit”.
Read this, it covers pretty much everything you’re huffing and puffing about -
And ah yes, Obama is solely to blame for all inactions during his administration, nevermind all the obstruction from the republicans. And yes, Putin is just another run of the mill president, and given the context of the last presidential election and all the accusations there’s nothing weird about Trump wanting to meet with him for a private meeting with no record keepers. As if that’s ever standard protocol.
Typical libertarian bullshit (I’m so sick of how many times I’ve had to utter that phrase in my life).
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Sorry to revive this, but this clip just struck me:
Does anyone else n otice how painfully obvious he is with his body language? I strongly suspect any time he crosses his arms, it’s an uncontrollable reflex as he gets defensive about a question, and the answer that follows is always undeniably BULLSHIT.
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There’s not a man living or dead who has spewed so much bullshit.